Virtuous veggies ‘leaf’ big impression

VeggieTales, a popular children’s series delivering faith and fun to viewers’ homes via vegetables, marks its 20th anniversary next month. Since 1993, lovable characters such as Larry the Cucumber and Bob the Tomato have shared Bible lessons and Christian values with families through hundreds of DVDs, CDs, TV programs and feature films.

The Denver Catholic Register recently spoke with co-founder and executive vice president Mike Nawrocki, the voice of Larry the Cucumber, about VeggieTales’ history, mission and future; and the latest DVD “Merry Larry and the True Light of Christmas.” But first he addressed the question: Why veggies?

“Most of it just had to do with the fact that necessity was the mother of invention,” Nawrocki said in a phone conversation. “At the time computer animation was so limited, and with our (small) budget, we just needed characters with no limbs, no hair and no clothes.

“Vegetables were a great alternative,” he continued. “Then we could really focus on the facial animation and the body movement.”

VeggieTales was the first-ever computer-generated imagery video series in the consumer market. The first episode was a big hurdle to overcome technologically.

“Of course over the years computer animation has advanced leaps and bounds and we’ve been able to make characters much more complex,” Nawrocki said of the dozen veggies that make up the mainstay cast. “But the characters themselves we’ve kept, I just think they have a charm.”

Nawrocki co-founded VeggieTales and Big Idea Entertainment with college friend, Phil Vischer, voice of Bob the Tomato, when they were working in the video post-production industry in Chicago in the late ’80s, early ’90s.

“We wanted to tell stories with a biblical worldview,” he said. “(To share that) there’s a God who made us, who loves us, who wants a relationship with us—and there’s this new technology to tell these little stories that support that worldview.”

After cobbling together personal funds as well as funds from family and friends, they bought their first computer and released “Where’s God When I’m Scared?” in December 1993. Initial response was limited, but eventually through ads in parenting magazines, placement in Christian bookstores and through word of mouth, the concept caught on.

“Parents take their kids to church, they want them to learn spiritual things, they want them to have a relationship with their Creator,” said the husband and father of two. “But that isn’t represented in most stories kids hear, in the media they take in.”

VeggieTales reaches young children, targeting 3- to 6-year-olds, with entertaining stories, engaging characters, silly songs and biblical messages such as thankfulness, forgiveness, sharing and love of neighbor.

“(We) weave those topics into a story that a kid can remember and live out in their life and ultimately be pointed toward God,” he said. “And I think there is that hunger from parents who say: ‘Yes, that is really what I want for my kids.’”

The latest DVD “Merry Larry and the True Light of Christmas” was released Oct. 22. In the film, Larry the Cucumber is a mall Christmas elf who meets a little girl whose only Christmas wish is to help her neighbor whose house has burned down. “Merry Larry” sets off to help the neighbor-in-need and rallies the town to get onboard as well.

“In the end it’s about the true light of Christmas and the central message: Christmas shines most bright and true when you give the love God gave to you,” Nawrocki relayed.

The film guest starsTV personality Si Robertson most well-known for his role on A&E’s “Duck Dynasty” and for speaking openly about his Christian faith.

“Old Uncle Si’s on board as narrator,” he said. “He shows up as the wise old mall custodian.”

Going forward, Nawrocki said, VeggieTales will continue releasing DVDs and next fall will launch a video series on Netflix: “Bob and Larry in the House.”

“We spent the first 10 years on VHS, our next 10 years on DVD and Blu-ray,” he continued. “And the next phase for us is the streaming format.”

He’s excited to continue to tell stories that remind kids that “God made them very special, and he loves them very much.”

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COMING UP: Father and son, deacon and priest: Deacon dads and priest sons share special bond as both serve God’s people

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The bond between a father and son is one of God’s greatest designs; however, when father and son are both called to serve the Church as deacon and priest, that bond takes on a whole new meaning. Just ask these two dads and their sons, all of whom answered the call to serve the people of God at the altar.

Deacon Michael Magee serves at Our Lady of Loreto Parish in Foxfield, while his son Father Matthew Magee has worked as the priest secretary to Archbishop Samuel J. Aquila for the past several years and will soon be moved to a new assignment as parochial vicar at St. Thomas Aquinas Parish in Boulder. Deacon Darrell Nepil serves at Our Lady of Lourdes Parish in Denver, and his son, Father John Nepil, served at several parishes within the archdiocese before his current assignment as a professor at St. John Vianney Theological Seminary.

However different their journeys may have been, all four have something in common; mainly, that far from seeing their vocations as a reward from God, they have received them as an uncommon gift of grace that has blessed their families and individual relationships with each other abundantly, knowing that God acts in different ways to help us all get to Heaven.

Interwoven journeys

Deacon Michael Magee was ordained in May 2009, at the end of Father Matt’s first year of seminary. Little did they know that God would use both of their callings to encourage each other along the journey.

Deacon Michael’s journey began when a man from his parish was ordained a deacon.

“I simply felt like God was calling me to do something more than I was doing at the present time,” he said. “I had been volunteering for a number of different things and was involved in some ministry activities and in the Knights of Columbus. And I thought the idea of being a deacon would be simply another activity for which I could volunteer.”

He didn’t know what it entailed at the time. In fact, he believed it was something a man could simply sign up for. To his surprise, the diaconate was more serious – and it required five years of formation and discernment. Yet he was so drawn to it, that he decided to do it anyway. But as he learned more about the nature of the diaconate during his formation, he became more nervous and unsure about whether God was really calling him to that vocation. 

While his doubts remained all the way up to his ordination, Deacon Michael was faithful to his studies, trusting that God would lead him in the right path. 

And God did — through the calling of his own son to the priesthood.

Deacon Michael didn’t realize that his son Matthew had paid close attention to his father’s faith journey and had found in it a light that gave him courage to discern the priesthood.

Father Matthew Magee (left) and his dad, Deacon Michael Magee (right), were both encouraging to one another as they each pursued their respective vocations. (Photo by Daniel Petty/Denver Catholic)

“Seeing my dad, as a father, growing in his relationship with the Lord was really influential for me on my own desire to follow Christ,” said Father Matt. “Looking at his courage to discern his own vocation and follow God’s plan in his life gave me the strength and courage to be open to the same thing in my life… He played a very important role, whether he knew it or not at the time, and whether I knew it or not at the time.”

On the other hand, Father Matt didn’t know that his dad was in turn encouraged by his own response to God’s calling. 

“As I went through all those doubts, I watched Matthew’s journey in seminary and listened to how he was dealing with that in his life. And, as he just articulated very well, I also saw those same qualities in him,” Deacon Michael said. “Seeing a young man in his 20s willing to consider following God for the rest of his life also gave me the courage to continue on in my own journey, to see it through.”

God’s way of uplifting them in their vocations through each other’s journey is something they are very grateful for. 

This unusual grace impacted Father Matt during his first Mass, when his dad, as deacon, approached him before the Gospel reading and asked for the traditional blessing by calling him “father.”

“It was a really special moment for me. He’s certainly my biological father and raised me. But then there’s something different when we’re at the altar in a clerical capacity — there’s a strange reversal of roles when we’re giving spiritual nourishment to the people — a father asks the new father for the blessing,” he said.

In both of their vocations, Deacon Michael and Father Matt see God’s Providence and the unique plan he has for all of us.

“We all have a vocation, even if it’s something we may not expect,” Deacon Michael concluded. “You may feel anxiety or worry about what it’s going to look like, but trust in God. He will take care of things as he always does.”

A bribe for Heaven

For Deacon Darell and Father John Nepil, the journey was different, but not any less providential.

While he grew up Catholic, Father John wasn’t interested in setting foot on any Church activity during his teenage years. His saving grace was perhaps what many parents have to do to get their teenagers to Church: bribe them.

“His mom and I basically bribed him to go to the Steubenville of the Rockies Conference,” Deacon Darell said with a laugh. “He didn’t want to go, but we’d heard so many good things about it, that we said, ‘We’re going to make this happen, whatever it takes.’”

So the Nepils came up with a creative idea.

“He owed me some money for a uniform that he had needed for a job in the summer. So, I said, ‘Listen, if you go to the Steubenville of the Rockies Conference, I’ll forgive your debt. And he did, he and his brother went. And John especially came back a different boy. He literally was converted with a lightning bolt at that retreat.”

To this day, Father John marks his conversion to Christ from the summer before his senior year in high school when he attended that conference. 

As it happens with stories worth telling, the details of how much money he owed his father have varied over the years, and it’s a matter of debate among them, but Father John remembers it was close to $500.

“That’s subject to each one,” Father John said laughingly. “But what matters is that they offered to forgive my debt if I went to this retreat – it was money well spent.”

Besides this important event, Father John said that his dad influenced him in many ways by the simple fact of who he was as a father.

“My dad’s faith and moral character were a rock for me during some difficult teenage years,” he said. “He’s a great example of a man who was always faithful and lived a really outstanding moral life, but then as he deepened in love with Christ, he decided to give of himself in a more profound service.”

Father John Nepil (left) and Deacon Darrell Nepil (right) both had rather roundabout ways to their respective vocations, but they both say serving God’s people together as brothers in Holy Orders is a great joy. (Photo provided)

Besides his desire to serve and follow God, the seed that would eventually lead Deacon Darell to the diaconate was planted by a coworker, who would also take holy orders: Deacon Joe Donohoe.

“One day he said to me, ‘You should be a deacon.’ And, of course, I laughed at him and said, ‘I don’t have time for that. My life is too busy.’ But it only took him to suggest it for the idea to keep coming back to my head, and God kept nudging me. Eventually I decided I really wanted to do that,” Deacon Darell said.

The ability to share at the altar during the Mass has deepened the natural relationship of father and son and given Deacon Darell and Father John new opportunities to grow closer to God. 

One of the most meaningful times came when Deacon Darell had a massive stroke in 2018. While he was in the hospital, Father John was able to visit and celebrate Mass at his bed and pray the rosary with him every day, as he had come back from Rome and was working on his dissertation.

“It was probably the most privileged and intimate time I’ve ever had with my father,” Father John said. “It was an amazing gift that really changed our relationship.”

“I feel like that’s a huge reason why I healed and why I am here today,” Deacon Darell added.

“It’s a real gift to have my dad as a deacon and a brother. It’s a tremendous honor. It’s one of the great joys of my life.” Father John concluded. “That’s really what has bonded our relationship together: the sheer desire to serve Jesus, especially in holy orders.”